David Duke Discusses Jewish Conspiracy On MSNBC Dershowitz Discusses National Socialist Movement's NukeIsrael.com 3/23/2006 10:02:08 AM Discuss this story in the forum MSNBC TV Transcript -- [Bill: My comments are interjected throughout. It is amazing how this Jew Scarborough lies:] SCARBOROUGH: Now coming up next, radicalism on college campuses are on the rise. A disturbing report from Harvard University that repeats ugly stereotypes. Oh yeah, David Duke now agreeing with Harvard—or should I say Harvard finally agreeing with David Duke. That’s coming up straight ahead. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) SCARBOROUGH: Welcome back. Radicalism on our college campuses. A new report from Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government charges that a Jewish conspiracy of sorts has seized control of Washington, DC. It pushed America into the war with Iraq. The Harvard report states the following, quote, were it not for the Israel lobby’s ability to manipulate the American political system, the relationship between Israel and the United States would be far less intimate than it is today. And that’s not all. The paper goes on to say that the Israel lobby is made up of an insidious network including the “New York Times” and the “Wall Street Journal,” pro-Israel think tanks like the Brookings Institute, top ranking Bush administration officials, neoconservative gentiles like George Will and even Christian evangelicals Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, all part of the conspiracy. The Harvard report has ideological allies on other Ivy League campuses and with the PLO and also with our next guest, David Duke, the former controversial Louisiana state representative who is currently a professor at the largest university in the Ukraine. Thank you for being with us tonight, Mr. Duke. You have been attacked as a former Klansman, an anti-Semite but tonight you’re in league with Harvard University. Do you feel vindicated? [Bill: Okay -- let's summarize that little speech and provide some context. Harvard University has been overrun with Jews, so as to prevent this kind of thing from happening. A non-Jew has published a report stating an obvious truth that everyone outside DC, New York, LA and Palm Beach knows as true without even questioning it. Now, to discredit it, the media is promoting a "white supremacist" and trying to link the two point of views. In my opinion, "white supremacy" no longer discredit a point of view. I think Scarborough failed on that grounds. But his tactic here is very dishonest, like Nick Griffin holding up Michael Hoffmann's rather extreme statements about him a a straw man to attack American white nationalism.] DAVID DUKE, FMR LOUISIANA STATE REPRESENTATIVE: I feel that the truth takes sometimes a long time to come out. And for many years davidduke.com, my Web site, has been saying that there were no weapons of mass destruction, that this was not a war for America. This was a war for Israel. It was orchestrated primarily by Richard Pearl and Paul Wolfowitz. That’s admitted by everyone to be the main orchestrators. They’re long time Zionist ideologues. Even Richard Perle wrote a paper for the Israeli government called “A Clean Break, Securing the Realm in which called for war with Iraq. [Bill: Notice Duke's media technique. First thing he does is name his website. Very well done. He starts right in on the Jews, which I think is well done here. The old saying is "the Jew can tell ten lies in the time it takes to refute one." That is what Scarborough is doing. The best Duke can do in response is try to pique the audience's interest so they can do the research on their own. The only trouble here is that Duke is a sociopathic conman whose commitment to white activism is questionable, but honestly, he is good at getting people interested in white nationalism -- they can leave him and come to the NSM later.] SCARBOROUGH: Now you have been saying this for sometime, Mr. Duke. Again, are you surprised, Mr. Duke, that Harvard, one of the most liberal universities, certainly the most esteemed universities in America is now agreeing with your position? [Bill: Note how Scarborough stays on message -- focused on linking Duke and Harvard. Amusingly, this does more to legitimize Duke than hurt Harvard, but ... the correct answer to this question is along the lines of "No, because obviously any idiot who hasn't been paid off by the Jewish establishment knows this is true -- whats amazing is that someone at Harvard resisted the payoff, not that someone is speaking the truth."] DUKE: Well, I see many people converging on this. I see conservatives like Patrick Buchanan and myself converging on this one issue. We see—I’m against the Iraq war because I’m a patriotic American. I don’t like the idea of American soldiers being maimed, killed, blinded, crippled, and disfigured, for a lie. And this war was for a lie. It was not about America. [Bill: Duke responds by name dropping Pat Buchanan -- an interesting technique, but not necessarily the best way to respond. All Pat has to do is turn around and disavow him.] SCARBOROUGH: You say it’s not about America. You say it’s about Israel. You say it’s - [Bill: Note that Scarborough knows that without Duke ever mentioning the Zionist Entity ... and that is what Scarborough is trying to discredit as a "conspiracy theory". This is the meat of what he is doing right here.] DUKE: This is the war for Israel. SCARBOROUGH: You say this Jewish conspiracy led us into war, and I tell you a lot of people in Washington, DC were saying that also. [Bill: The world is saying it ...] How do you explain—you have George Bush, a gentile, Dick Cheney a gentile, Condi Rice, a gentile and you got Rumsfeld. I mean, these were the four people that led us into this war. Were they just gentile - Jewish cabal? [Bill: The correct answer here is to say that America is faced with a white capitalist elite that has been led astray by a century of Jewish "economists" and "political advisors" misleading them -- which is why national socialism, an ideology of political unity between all white people, regardless of class, is so important ...] DUKE: How do you explain this? I think - in fact Ralph Nader said that once. I think they are puppets. I think that George Bush knows which side of the bread it’s buttered on. I think he knows what the political power in this country is economically in terms of campaign contributions. The “Wall Street Journal” itself talked about 50 percent of the contributions for Republicans and even more for Democrats, come from Jewish sources. We talk about the media, a powerful force. We have AIPAC, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. Now they have top officials in that organization being charged with espionage against the United States of America. We have George Bush—wait, we have George Bush going to speak before— [Bill: This is a good response as well.] SCARBOROUGH: Hold on a second. DUKE: Can you imagine a Russian group of—can you imagine a Russian group (CROSSTALK) [Bill: Duke is making a good argument; Scarborough talks over it.] SCARBOROUGH: We have a bad delay here, Mr. Duke and I apologize. I’m going to have to keep talking because we have a delay. You talk about the media I’m sure there are a lot of people who support the media that wish there were a conspiracy a Zionist conspiracy, because all the press reports about this war from the day it was launched has been overwhelmingly negative, on almost every network and “The New York Times.” [Bill: That response is shocking and almost mentally ill. Judith Miller, anyone?] DUKE: That’s not true. Come on. You know that’s not true. No, “the New York Times”— [Bill: Duke is as floored by that lie as I was.] SCARBOROUGH: I know it is true (INAUDIBLE). For the past three years. DUKE: If I can answer you I will sir, if you will give you an opportunity. If people can’t listen to what I say here, they can go to my Web site, davidduke.com and hear my positions elucidated in more depth. But the point is this, “The New York Times,” as you know, in fact supported the war, in fact the apologized for supporting the war. The major networks, this network, Fox Network, they had all kinds of icons like the war for freedom in Iraq. It wasn’t a war for freedom. It’s not a war for democracy. In fact, right now all the neo-cons are saying they want a civil war, just as Israel wanted civil war in Lebanon when they went to Lebanon. [Bill: Again, Duke plugs the website and does a good job giving people a taste.] SCARBOROUGH: All right. We’re going to have to leave it there. David Duke, thank you so much for being with us. We appreciate it. And I want to bring in right now. DUKE: I’m pro-American not pro-Israel. SCARBOROUGH: All right, thank you. I want to bring in Alan Dershowitz. He’s author of “Preemption, a Knife that Cuts Both Ways,” a man who was accused of being an apologist for Israel in the Harvard paper. Professor, we have a long debate on whether to bring David Duke on this show or not. We decided at the end to bring him on and let him air his views because unfortunately too many Americans have been whispering this for years, in emails and letters to their representatives or members of the media, but today the whispers became a roar with this Harvard report. What is going on? [Bill: To summarize: Hymie! Thank God you're here! Oy Vey! Americans are starting to see through us, and all we could do to discredit them is bring in a convicted white nationalist conman who no longer represents a threat to us. Oy! What shall we do?] ALAN DERSHOWITZ, HARVARD LAW PROFESSOR: Well, first of all, it’s not a Harvard report. It’s a report by one uninformed dean at Harvard who was way out of the loop and his article is full of mistakes. It’s going to be rebutted and responded to, but I never thought I would live to see the day when a Harvard dean would essentially copy from the David Duke Web site. And if you look at the report, it’s 80 pages, there is not a paragraph that is original in it. Every paragraph virtually is copied from a neo-Nazi Web site, from a radical Islamic Web site, from David Duke’s Web site. You see parallel citations, parallel arguments. They come from Web sites such as nukeisrael.com, which is a neo Nazi Web site. It’s shocking that a dean at Harvard Kennedy School would publish something with no originality, which just basically parallels and copies the kind of hate speech that one sees on the Internet. [Bill: I don't think anything came off of our NukeIsrael.com website. However, I love Dershowitz for his ability to lie. Even among Jews, few can spit hated and untruths better than this two faced kike. Anyways, not Dershowitz' technique, which is to say that it is one isolated individual who will be punished by his Jewish masters, and to basically deny Scarborough's thesis, which is that everyone knows this is true so what are we going to do?] SCARBOROUGH: But, professor, I understand it’s one dean at Harvard right now and that dean should be fired. But at the same time, you and I have both seen over the past three years on elite campuses, not only in Europe, but also across America, this growing anti-Semitism. You’ve seen it on colleges, whether it’s an ivy league or whether it’s at Cal-Berkeley. What’s going on there and why does it seem that more and more people are comfortable about not whispering about anti-Semitism but actually professors going in the classrooms and filling our students with this type of hate speech? [Bill: Note how Scarborough slips from criticizing Zionist involvement in the war to "anti-Semitism".] DERSHOWITZ: Well, I just came back from a tour of European campuses. I was at Oxford and London and Lidon and Brussels. And there you see kind of overt anti-Israel, anti-Zionists and even sometimes anti-Semitic speech. In the United States, I think it’s much more much cautious and much more careful. But this kind of bigotry that appears in this Harvard report was more extreme than anything I saw in Europe. For example, this professor says that Israeli citizenship is based on blood. That comes directly from neo-Nazi Web sites. There is of course no truth to it. [Bill: Wow. Those last sentences are such a lie that one may not notice the first ones -- Dershowitz basically says that the US is under much better Jewish control that Europe, and thus the Jews should not be so worried, because things are so much worse in other places in the world.] Twenty five percent of Israeli citizens are not even Jewish. Anybody can become an Israeli citizen if you qualify. Religion is not a criterion for citizenship. These ignoramuses who published this piece confuse Israel’s law of return, which is an immigration policy with Israel’s law of citizenship, which is totally not based on religion or race or nationality. It’s based on obviously the same criteria that America bases its citizenship on. But there are more non-Jewish citizens in Israel than there are Jewish citizens, for example for example, of the United States. And Jordan doesn’t have a Jewish citizen by law. And when he was asked why he didn’t mention Jordan, he said, we’re not talking about Jordan, we’re talking about Israel. It’s just bigotry at its worse and then he says that nobody wants to debate the issue. I’ve challenged them to debate this issue at Harvard and they’ve come back with a weasel response, well, under the right circumstances. [Bill: Twenty five percent are not Jewish. Anyone can be one if they qualify. Those twenty five percent are a combination of the Arab minority and non-practicing Jews Dershowitz slips from race to religion and uses the terms interchangeably to avoid the truth. The law of return allows any Jew to be a Zionist citizen. The laws of citizenship are not "like America's", where Mexicans flood the border and Jews demand they be recognized as citizens. Dershowitz really is an over the top brazen liar. He astounds even me sometimes.] SCARBOROUGH: Well, professor. [Bill: Dershowitz has lied so hard even Scarborough is in shock. Personally, I don't think this is a good tactic for the Jews. I mean, yes, it is brazen lying. But I don't think telling lies that even a six year old can see through really helps their cause. You have to be able to trick the TV watching public, which means you have to tell lies that an intelligent twelve year old would have trouble debunking. This is not happening here.] DERSHOWITZ: If we got the right moderator. Debate me. Justify your charges. This is a university. I predict they will refuse to debate. [Bill: Note that he needs the right moderator. LOL] SCARBOROUGH: Professor, we asked them to come on this show. We asked them to debate you. We asked them to debate me. We said we would go on with them one-on-one. They refused to come on this show. DERSHOWITZ: Because they know they’re wrong and they know it’s hate speech. They know it’s anti-Semitism and they know that this is going to feed hate Web sites across the world. [Bill: Fuck Dershowitz. Let him debate David Duke. You don't see that happening, do you? Hell, let him debate me. I'll rip that Jew a new asshole.] SCARBOROUGH: It’s already published and you know what. You love Harvard. But you know the name Harvard is going to be attached to this hate speech for the next 20 to 30 years. [Bill: Again, look at how Scarborough plays his script to perfection, even after Dershowitz' lies shock him into silence.] DERSHOWITZ: I know. SCARBOROUGH: We are going to be seeing it in papers forever. So what does Harvard do tomorrow to rectify this out rage? [Bill: How do they appease the Jews? How can they beg forgiveness, oh Chosen? LOL] DERSHOWITZ: Well, first of all, no professor should be able to say, I refuse to defend my position. I refuse to debate my position. These are people who have published hate speech, as I say, essentially lifted it from Web sites. They’ve been challenged to debate. They say in their article that pro- Israel advocates refuse to debate. They call me an apologist for Israel, even though I’m critical of any Israeli policies and I’m not part of any lobby. Then when I challenge them to a debate they say maybe. When you challenge them to a debate they say no. They refuse to justify their position. I don’t believe in firing professors. They have academic freedom. They have the right to be wrong and they are just dead wrong. There ought to be a kind of Henry Ford professorship or al-Jazeera professorship and these folks ought to fill that professorship. But nobody should believe what they’re saying because they’re demonstrably wrong and false and they won’t defend their position and that’s the worst academic. [Bill: Again, wow. Dershowitz is a blizzard of non-sensibility. He refuses to debate his position -- on principle -- because his opponents refuse to debate him -- primarily because he is a loon spouting disjointed nothings. Hmmm.] SCARBOROUGH: Because it’s indefensible. Professor, it’s indefensible. You and I know it and they know it. Thank you for being with us. We really appreciate it, thank you. [Bill: And end with a giant sucking sound. There is a reason I don't watch television, and this is it. Wow.] ----- Emailed to you by: Libertarian Socialist News ATTN: Bill White, Editor Post Office Box 8631 Roanoke, VA 24014 http://www.overthrow.com dhyphen@yahoo.com To unsubscribe, you must go to the website and fill out the form in the upper left hand corner -- the one that says "unsubscribe".